Man in a Shed: How long can this go on ?

Saturday, September 13, 2008

How long can this go on ?

See Kerron Cross here ...

Some in Labour as still campaigning for obedient loyalty to the man who showed no such thing to the man he ~~deposed~~ replaced.

Do none of them think of the country ?

Further:

See the case being made by Iain Martin for John Reid to take on Brown - it looks plausible to me. At least there would be some direction in government, even if an ex-Communist was PM.

8 comments:

John M Ward said...: Do none of them think of the country ?"

No: they're essentially Socialists, and one thing we have learned about that breed, from all around the world as well as here, is that their only interests revolve around themselves.

Any of them who doesn't fit with this philosophy will not be given a position of power, and those who turn against it will have any such authoity taken away from then -- as has happened to two such MPs today.

That's how they operate; and anyone who might have doubted it has now seen the evidence. Not that some of their bloggers and other commentators will ever learn, of course...; 11:09 pm
Man in a Shed said...: I'm afraid your right John.; 11:51 pm
Brian said...: I posted this as a follow on to your excellent post:
http://listeningblogger.blogspot.com/2008/09/lesson-from-history-for-gordon-brown.html

Can't somone in the Labour Party just order him a taxi?; 12:38 am
James Higham said...: I think we're all waiting for the farce to end.; 10:03 am
Man in a Shed said...: Gallimaufry - I think you Lloyd George quote at the end is the killer line:-

"It is not a question of who are the Prime Minister's friends. It is a far bigger issue. … He has appealed for sacrifice. The nation is prepared for every sacrifice so long as it has leadership. … I say solemnly that the Prime Minister should give an example of sacrifice because there is nothing which can contribute more to victory in this war than that he should sacrifice the seals of office." David Lloyd George MP; 12:35 pm
Man in a Shed said...: You know James - I think its just possible Brown may survive.

The coup is obviously centrally planned, and they will use all the ammunition they have shortly - but will it be enough ?

If they had 71 votes then they would use them. If they had a senior cabinet minister willing to sacrifice his career for the party and country - then it will happen this week ( and should have happened at the start of the Summer ).

I suspect the end result will be to wound Brown and severely damage the other senior Labour ministers - specifically Miliband who now looks feckless and weak.

If the country wasn't going down the drain then I'd be pleased.; 12:38 pm
Paul Burgin said...: Your point would have more to it if it wasn't for the fact that the same argument could be made against ardent Thatcherites in 1990; 7:16 pm
Man in a Shed said...: Paul, actually I think that rather does make my point.

The Conservative party resolves these things one way or the other, it doesn't leave a bleeding Prime minister staggering on with those around him willing to wound, but never to end the issue.

Again, whilst this is obviously very traumatic to Labour party members, the government of the country is in free fall, and its your duty to do something.

Nobody voted for Gordon Brown, and those who voted at the last general election for Labour were deceived by the promise that Tony Blair would be PM. He has no mandate. Its time for him to go.

I point you back to the quote from Lloyd George in my earlier comments.

Surely the manner in which he is clinging on to office and its thuggery confirms that he should lose it ?; 7:32 pm

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