tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post8751442641103062006..comments2024-03-21T09:30:11.468+00:00Comments on Man in a Shed: Ed Balls takes the voters for foolsMan in a Shedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-36982912351402345992009-06-17T07:08:32.176+01:002009-06-17T07:08:32.176+01:00Hi Man in a Shed;
What a strange comment!
"Co...Hi Man in a Shed;<br />What a strange comment!<br />"Communicating with people's sub conscious?"<br />My initial reaction was thaat he made no promise; which is why Gove's comment stood out so clearly to me.<br /><br />However - I completely agree we can't give credit to lying politicians (e.g. Gove as demonstrated in this interview) - and also that the interviewers need to highlight these issues.El Mysticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15565165757840486904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-45247362300316692322009-06-16T18:04:51.228+01:002009-06-16T18:04:51.228+01:00@El Mystico: The problem is that since New Labour&...@El Mystico: The problem is that since New Labour's birth politicians now major in communicating with people's sub conscious. Whilst when you sit down and analyse Ed Balls words you realise he promised nothing at all, you initial reaction is that he did ( as was Martha's ).<br /><br />The answer is to give credit where credit is due, and damn those who speak it riddles and half truths. Once a politician starts speaking like Mr Balls did we shouldn't believe a word he says there after - he's lost his privileged to be credible.<br /><br /><i>Also the media need to sharpen up their act on interviews etc</i>. Its their job to tell the listener when verbal tricks are being used to mislead.<br /><br />What many of us would perhaps on first sight consider as lying is often deceit, evasion and obscuring the facts. But the effect is the same.<br /><br />As you say we can't have a proper political debate - or even an effective democracy under those conditions.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-24814527631027526982009-06-16T17:46:24.552+01:002009-06-16T17:46:24.552+01:00Yes; a fascinating interview. Michael Gove said at...Yes; a fascinating interview. Michael Gove said at the end "this is a historic interview because Ed began this interview by promising that Education spending would increase after 2011...." before accusing him of then making a U turn.<br /><br />But as your quote in red (which was Ball's first reference to 2011 spending) and comment above make absolutely clear, he made no promise - the caveats were there from the outset.<br /><br />I'm not commenting on the Labour or Conservative policy. Just asking - how can we debate the policies if the politicians are going to lie?El Mysticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15565165757840486904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-18999756728828355552009-06-16T10:33:00.602+01:002009-06-16T10:33:00.602+01:00He's almost as bad as his wife...He's almost as bad as his wife...The Half-Blood Welshmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05072936624444891100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-67328607235907001722009-06-16T08:27:40.920+01:002009-06-16T08:27:40.920+01:00ting you should mention the gap year student. He w...ting you should mention the gap year student. He was just on the radio trying to obsurfiy (a Bushism ?) the fact that Labour chose a load of supporters to run the Iraq inquiry.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-20546666195992705652009-06-16T07:57:40.327+01:002009-06-16T07:57:40.327+01:00He does take the voters for fools, like Millipede ...He does take the voters for fools, like Millipede - they've been groomed to do that.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.com