tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post6011011213153895519..comments2024-03-21T09:30:11.468+00:00Comments on Man in a Shed: Brown is right on the third runway at HeathrowMan in a Shedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-90825570333372701942009-01-19T10:00:00.000+00:002009-01-19T10:00:00.000+00:00Wildgoose - no its not straight forward at all.But...Wildgoose - no its not straight forward at all.<BR/><BR/>But I think it helps is people state what their objectives and objections are.<BR/><BR/>Say in the case of the good people of Harrow the noise, pollution, increases risk, and reduction in property values.<BR/><BR/>All these could be dealt with and prevented from getting worse with new aircraft technology, varying flight paths, and giving generous compensation ( and why not ? We are always trying to get thigs from people ont he cheap. Why shouldn't HEathrow compensate the people it puts out ? ) etc.<BR/><BR/>However because government has reneged on promises it has made in the past, such assurances just aren't trusted. The only clear way for people to stop more air traffic over their house is to oppose the third runway. That is a failing in the integrity of government. ( I'd like to say just Labour, but Stansted shows differently ).<BR/><BR/>I suspect that the opponents of the third runway will win, and slowly businesses will relocate elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>My favourite overseas country is the Netherlands, and their airport Schiphol is just a wonder to behold. If I had an internationally mobile business that's where I would go.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-63838052313641538272009-01-19T08:23:00.000+00:002009-01-19T08:23:00.000+00:00I was inclined to be opposed to the new runway at ...I was inclined to be opposed to the new runway at Heathrow, but you've argued your case well. It's not at all clear cut is it?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02948105455433369982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-29814747180870407832009-01-17T11:18:00.000+00:002009-01-17T11:18:00.000+00:00Rachel, I thought you'd disagree.High speed rail i...Rachel, I thought you'd disagree.<BR/><BR/>High speed rail is a fine thing. I took the kids down to the South of France in Summer on the TGV and enjoyed the experience ( the train stopped at Charles de Gaulle on the way down - and indeed I looked at flying from Heathrow to CDG and then using the TGV for the rest - it was cost neutral ).<BR/><BR/>But if any of the lines about the UK in the new world global economy are to be remotely true we must have a world class airport with world wide connections.<BR/><BR/>London is a great selling point for international consultancy/engineering work in the Middle East for example. Just the thought of a days shopping in London could swing the deal !<BR/><BR/>However conversely being badly treated at the airport puts of our intentional clients. The US have probably lost billions of dollars of business ( much of it to us in the UK ) when the US Dept of homeland security started treating every Arab as a close friend of Osama Bin Laden. There's only so many strip searches you'll put up with when you have millions of dollars to spend.<BR/><BR/>The same negative impact can be generated by Heathrow chocking after Weather incidents etc, or having to fly else where in Europe to get here.<BR/><BR/>There are a large number of multi million pound businesses based West of London because of Heathrow.<BR/><BR/>I would be fine with moving Heathrow further West, but in reality it isn't going to happen. Moving the airport East is a non starter.<BR/><BR/>I suspect the voice of opposition is heard more clearly than those who's livelihoods rely on Heathrow.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps a solution could be if those who are impacted by the third runway enjoy some of the benefits, or are allowed to relocate at no loss. Heathrow could contribute more to the local boroughs it over flies.<BR/><BR/>If you think the protests over Heathrow are bad - wait till high speed rail links get punched through the most populated parts of our country and cities !<BR/><BR/>Personally I think the high speed rail links won't be built for 30 years. We have a bad tradition of doing things either on the cheap or for political expediency ( see Sheffield Tram - Eurostar link to St Pancras not Waterloo etc, West coast link North of Manchester etc ), or just not at all.<BR/><BR/>We have a general problem with planning in that key infrastructure just isn't getting built in this country.<BR/><BR/>We need more Motorways, Airports, Gas storage, Power stations Coal and Nuclear. All are held back by local protest and short term political expediency.<BR/><BR/>The answer is that local people need more compensation in recognition of what is taken from them for the greater good. I understand the French have a more generous compensation system, which vastly reduces their opposition.<BR/><BR/>Having said all that it is of course the duty of local representatives to put their constituencies case as well and forcefully as possible. I'm sure your going to make a good case, and Conservative policy is very clear on this issue ( even if I disagree with it ! )<BR/><BR/>What we have here is a clash between local and national interests. In the UK local interests usually win, which is why we are now facing a power crisis, gas storage crisis, and motorway gridlock.<BR/><BR/>OK a bit of a ramble there...<BR/><BR/>I suspect the third Runway won't be built in the next 50 years and the UK will lose some of its remaining world class businesses as a result. I'm afraid high speed rail just won't make any difference even if it was built - which I doubt.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9565399.post-75880643667713787412009-01-17T09:33:00.000+00:002009-01-17T09:33:00.000+00:00I usually agree with you on most things - but not ...I usually agree with you on most things - but not this one. See my blog for more detail including the problems of the democratic deficit here. I am not against airport expansion but Heathrow is a mad place to put an airport anyway and we need high speed rail links even more.Rachel Joycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442745344093829248noreply@blogger.com